Before Chi

Before Chi Cheng filled the bass shoes in the band, there was another bass player. The Deftones’ first bass player was in fact a guy named Dominic Garcia (Dom). Dominic was Abe’s schoolmate and was invited to jam with the band. But Abe was constantly moving from band to band, so  Dominic moved to drums and bassist Chi joined the band. But Dominic was only a few weeks the Deftones’ drummer cause he left the band earlier and Abe definitely took that place.

“Dominic E. Garcia

One of Ebo Okokan’s newest sensations, Sacramento-bred Dominic Garcia has been making noise with his hands as long as he can remember. He started officially playing “drums” at age 7, which he taught himself to play listening to classic Latin Rock and R & B. Dominic began dancing in his teens, break dancing and competing on the streets under the rubric of “KidCraze.” Dominic has experimented with a wide range of musical instruments including E-Flat Alto Horn, Trumpet, and Saxophone. He picked up guitar and bass, moving into the rock scene in 1988, performing most notably with the Deftones, and Phallusy. Dominic began his study of Latin percussion, (congas, timbales, and bongos) in 1995 and has just recently started studying Afro-Cuban rhythms, dance, and song with Harold and Beatriz Muñiz. Over the years Dominic has performed with numerous bands, including Les Moncada y su Orchestra, Salsa Monumental, Up from the Roots, Urban Fiya, and Rick Martin. And along with Ebo, he is currently performing with the West Coast Rhythm Section. In addition to performance, Dominic is studying musical theory, composition, and arrangement, and is in the process of forming a Sacto-based Charanga band.”

much thanks to: Tania Silva

Napster Rant MP3 Secrets

In the White Pony enhanced CD right after you hit exit, (Macromedia’s log) you hear Chino’s son saying something like “take this” and if you listen to the Napster rant, you can see that this exit sound was taken off the Napster Rant. (mp3 runtime= 44″). (props to Abby Diaz)

Possibly the Linus from Like Linus… a real person the Deftones know…. on the Napster Rant they put up before WP came out they’re jokin around saying “buy WP, why are u stealing music…blah blah blah” so then (I guess Abe) starts jammin on the drums and the whole mp3 sounds like they’re recording this funny shit at a party (chino, Abe and Frank are there for sure) so anyway after they start jabbering abe starts drummin and stops and Chino starts calling “LINUS! LINUS!” no one answers so chino gets on the mic and says “linus come here” and u hear some dude sayin “what’s up mother fuckers..” and Chino says “get on the bass and give me a c sharp” (Much Thanks to Matt)


In 1999 there was a movie made called “The White Pony”. It was about a leprechaun that helps a girl befriend a magical pony. It stared Olivier Gruner who played the uncle. At the end the white pony goes into a light and turns into a women and leaves. It was a very touching children’s movie. (props to Michael Young)


I got more secrets for the enhanced White Pony CD:

– Clicking the 3 in Worldwide gives you the Abe ballooning animation.
– In the credits page (exit) if you click on these names: Mike Donk, Darren  Eggleston and Fred Croshal, you’ll have some exclusive pics
LIKE THESE: 01 | 02

Some are rumored to be true but didn’t work with me:

– If you use the cheat Easter egg on the edge walls something strange will happen to your pony.
– Watching Abe’s indulge screen too long gives you a wicked shot.

In the lung section all the lyrics that have “fuck” in them have it scratched out and in change at then end instead of saying “give you the gun, blow me away” it says “give you everything, blew me away” which was probably the original lyric – Thanks to Jessyca.

So if you find more secrets let me know — thanks!


Any time the color white is used, immediately there’s a belief it’s a cocaine reference. Is that the case here?

Chino: “In a way. There’s a lot of different references for White Pony. One of them is a cocaine reference and there’s a lot of stuff…have you ever heard stuff like in dream books that if you dream about a white pony then you’re having a sexual dream? There’s a lot stuff that kinda  goes around it. And there’s an old song [that goes] “ride the white horse.” That’s obviously a  drug reference song. I just kinda dug it. ” (thanks to Matt)


I got this one from the last Much Music Show with the Deftones (November,  2000). The chick who was interviewing them asked something to Chi about the reason why he studied feminism back in college and he answered:

Chi: “I took everything that I was interested in college rather than following a format, so I was there for maybe 3 or 4 years.”

…Stef whispered “So he can hang with the chicks”.

(thanks to Travis for sending me that show)


On almost all old Deftones shows and pics, Chino just holds his mic. But later like after he cut his hair he winds the wire of the mic around his hands and fingers. First I thought it was because he doesn’t want to lose his mic when he dives into the crowd, but I’ve also watched shows that he doesn’t dive so I think it’s just because he feels more comfortable that way or something like that. Another difference from the “new Chino” and the “old Chino” is his behavior on stage. Nowadays he stands a lot on the inner speakers and he doesn’t dive that much, he just climbs the crowd fence and stands there singing with the fans. (also thanks to Sly)

Additional info: With some Mics you can get some nasty sounds (clicking & popping) from the cord right at the base of mic moving around. If you take up a bit of the slack and isolate it (ie wrap it around your arm like Chino does) it’ll eliminate those clicks and pops. (thanks to Kieran)