. Here's what Chino has to say about this song:
There was a piano in the studio, where we recorded the record, and it was just there.. And every day i walked by, i kinda fiddled with it and i kinda came up with this melody idea and this vocal line. And then stephen came in and played the drum part, and it's just kinda like a simple beat, but we just recorded like really ambient and just added guitars and a little tiny bit of a mod in it, and it just turned out to work. I think you should never be afraid to use any types of instruments just try ur saxophone or hammond... (thanks to: Frank)
. The pre-mix version of Back To School that was floating around in Napster in March 2000 is a lot different than the final release that appeared on the single/enhanced album. In the original version the sound is a lot more compatible to the rest of the album, the drums sound the same (the album version has a higher dynamic range, what makes it sound more "fat") Also, the beginning has a little static in background (probably due to the "unfinished" status) Plus, in the album version, Chino starts his first verse at 0:22, in the original version he starts at 0:32, because one pattern seems to have been edited. Plus, in the album version, there has been different background vocals added at the end of the song. Plus, the vocals in the album version are a lot louder and more "sharp" than in the original mix. And in addition here's an english translation of an interview from a german magazine called "VISIONS", where Chino says something about Back to School:
VISIONS: There seems to be just one song, that negatively affects your general work: Back To School, the single version of "Pink Maggit".
CHINO: Back To School was a mistake. A calculated song, that has been built up with only one aim in mind: It should be single.
FRANK: It never belonged to the album. Our record company recieved White Pony without that song.
VISIONS: And why was it released afterwards?
CHINO: Because I was an idiot. I wanted to prove 'em some. Months later, after White Pony was released, they wanted us to do a new version of Pink Maggit, They said, we lost our heavyness, and there were no more singles on the album. First, I wanted to stick this idea up my ass, but then I thought, I'm gonna show those fuckers how easy it is to create a hit-single. And so I rapped a hip hop part on that song, we shortened it and half an hour later, the hit-single was ready to roll on. FRANK: They engaged this Pop-director, who worked with Britney Spears before, it really went off shitty, due to that. High-school, glamour, all this shit.
VISIONS: Do you regret it?
CHINO: Yeah, but we learned our lesson. Even on this record they came up and asked me to change a chorus. It doesn't make sense for a radio-dj, they told me. I told them to go fuck theirselves. (by Daniel)
. "I was walking through rasputins... a cd store by my house... and over the stereo that the store was playing i heard some rapper and suddenly he kept saying "I'll be the man, watch your backpack, pen and pencil"...i was like WHAT THE FUCK!!?!? thats from back to school!!!!!! so i ran up to the counter and asked the guy who was playing on the stereo.....it was KOOL KEITH.... and i know what big fans the Deftones are of kool keith..... so i went home and found which kool keith song it is..... he uses this line "I'll be the man, watch your backpack, pen and pencil" several times in his chorus on the track I Don't Play on the Black Elvis/Lost in Space album.....which came out in 1999.... looks like Deftones were using alluding to kool keith by using his line." (by Matt)
. Two other bands shot their video at Grant High School after the Deftones. They show shots of the outside only (GRANT HIGH SCHOOL), like the beginning of the back to school video. The bands are Saliva ("Your Disease") and Tantric ("Breakdown?"). Also if you look close to Chino's t-shirt, while he's screaming for the first time "So run!" in his bedroom, you can see that he's using |here| a Duran Duran t-shirt, one of Chino's favorite bands.
. It seems that Chino says the word "SHIT" (runtime= 01'07"). When he sings "Stop that quit..." seems like he wants to sing "Stop that sh..." but suddenly the "sh..." becomes a "quit". The same happens on the first version of Back to School. I think it was kinda "cleaned up" by Maverick Records. And when they played it live he says "SHIT" occasionally.
. The Back To School version on the re-release of the White Pony is a lot louder than the rest of the album. If you start the album from the begging and don't touch the volume you can really tell the difference. It's probably because it wasn't mixed with all the other songs on the album. (props to LodiDodi86@aol.com)
. Now I'm sure! The Back to School video has two different versions. There's the normal video which starts with some still shots at Chino's bedroom and there's another one which shows cheer leaders near their lockers, and also that kid with Korn's bag is on that 2nd version of this same video.
. The European Back to School CD single contains 2 live tracks (Nosebleed and Teething). The sleeve says that the songs were recorded in Chicago on November 8th, 2000 but they are the same songs from the My Own Summer CD single and the Be Quiet and Drive single so they were really recorded on October 13th, 1997. Also, the track times on the sleeves do not equal the actual times, as the intro to Teething is absent. It starts really loud (source: SACTO)
. Here's Chino's thought about the release of "Back to School":
Chino: "Honestly, I didn't want Back To School on the record. It was unfinished at the time, and I didn't want anything too hip-hop-oriented on the album."
. In the beginning of the "Back to School" video, you can see a guy using a bag with 'Korn' written on it. Click |here| to see a shot of that.
. Also in the "Back to School" video, Chino passes the gothic teens and greets Chi (0:00:26 in Quicktime time). And passes him again in 00:00:29. I didn't notice that until now. Another weird thing in this video is that Chino's posters in his bedroom are kinda pixilated. We can't see what posters he has. Check these secrets |here|, |here| & |here| (thanks to Taco)
. The first word on 'Feiticeira' is 'Fuck'. It's not 'Stop' like the official lyrics says. And right after he says 'New murderer...' there's another hidden 'Fuck'. Chino told me it has to be that way, otherwise 'White Pony' would get a 'parental advisory' stick on it.
. About "White Pony" 1st track "Feiticeira", Chino Moreno said:
"It's named after a Brazilian female, but it's lyrically about a kidnapping scenario."
This Brazilian female that Chino talks about, is one of the most wanted women in Brazil. She's a sex symbol. Her trademark is a veil she uses and of course her body and sexy lingerie (few lingerie just the essential). She became famous in a TV show where only men could participate - The host asked a few questions (really hard ones) then if the player fails "Feiticeira" began to hurt him, like for example shaving is leg with wax, shaving his head...she really embarrassed men for being so greedy, but in the other hand if they get the right answer (a few made) then "Feiticeira" concede him a wish...like staying with her alone...get into love games with her, everything except sex! In Portuguese "Feiticeira" means witch... That's why she was named "Feiticeira", because she makes magic between men... Click |here| to see who's mysterious "Feiticeira" that Chino talks about!
. Chino wrote this song thinking about a sexual fantasy that he had about luring a girl into a bath and then electrocuting her with an appliance or something then dressing her back up. "It was probably 5 in the morning--we were still up partying--and I just pictured this whole scenario of having this girl, bringing her downstairs and taking a bath and like, out of nowhere, just reaching back and electrocuting--basically throwing some kind of electrical device in the bathtub and then taking her out of the bath and drying her off and putting her clothes back on." - CHINO (thanks to Nat Jeanneret / GhettoRocker316@aol.com)
. In the "Digital Bath" video that at 1:55 when Chi is stretching. It shows a brief shot of the band assistant Juan Gonzalez, in the right hand corner. And At 1:43-1:46. When the guys are running to stand in the front, it flashes twice - It's someone's eyes. (thanks to Brent Starr)
. If you hear 'Digital Bath' from 2':30'' till 2':50'' you could imagine yourself in a bathroom laid on the bath with the faucet dripping huge drops and making this kind of echo on the bathroom.
. RX is a term used in communications to indicate data being received (the opposite being TX - transmitted), and is a term commonly associated with faxes/modems and the like. If you look on your modem there may well be a light that is called RX ("red light in june" ?). Also, RX is also used to abbreviate Radix, which is Latin for Root. (thanks to Rob)
. At the end of 'Rx Queen' at about 4:00 till the end of the song, it sounds like a telephone is ringing or like the sound of when you're transmitting a fax (the first ring is at 4:00 exactly).
. On the 'White Pony' EPK (short movie), right before the camera went into the TV on the 'Rx Queen' part, you can see that under the TV that shows the videos, it's written 'SACTO' (vertical). And between 'SACTO' and the TV, it's the 'White Pony' release date '06 20 00'. Check |here| a screenshot of that.
. Like 'Mx' I asked Chino about the x in 'Rx Queen' and it was seconds before I saw his face for the last time when I met the Deftones. I was with them in their van and the driver was in a hurry, so it was the last thing I asked him: "What about the x in 'Rx Queen'? It stands for what girl's name?" and at the exact time I asked it, the driver started the engine, and Chino spoke at the same time and I guess he said 'Rayanne' cause with all the engine's noise I didn't get it, but when I was about to ask him 'what?' the driver put the foot on the gas and drove them to the airport 'cause I was being such a pain in the ass always asking them stuff, and they were late for their flight. - RX also stands for prescription in the U.S.
. In this song the official lyrics at one part say "now take in home, and have fun with it" when in reality he's saying --now take it home, and fuck with it--
Once again selling strategies were behind this.
. Crook revealed something more about this song:
Deftones Fan: On Teenager, who is playing what in that song? Its been bugging me since it came out cuz I cant tell if its all programmed or what?
DJ Crook: chino - vocals / frank - turntables / frank or Stephan (not sure) - keyboard / me - everything else
Matt (another fan): so... you're on the acoustic guitar, Crook?
DJ Crook: in a roundabout way...yes, rather not go into details. but basically yes i wrote the music to Teenager...
Then, after this Crook just posted THIS awesome pic (the original teenager disk).
. If you didn't know "Teenager" beatings are from a drum machine, those are drum loops. Abe's not playing it, just Frank and Chino are on "Teenager". Also if you listen very closely to the left speaker at the very beginning of teenager it sounds like someone is lightly knocking at a door. ( also thanks to Matt)
. "Teenager" was originally a Team Sleep song (Chino's side project). But Chino brought it into to the White Pony and it turned on a Deftones song. The weirdest in their career. (thanks to David)
. Right before Rodleen starts to scream (runtime=2'51'') someone, I don't know if it's her or Chino, makes a strange noise just as if somebody was sticking a knife or something in her/his body. It's like 'AuhOh!'. This sound is really softly so you have to put it louder to hear.
. Helmet's album "Betty" (1994) has a song called "Tic", at a certain part of this song it goes like this:
"Wearing slim fast you carve your niche
Lean smug back and work your pitch"
Coincidence or not, the truth is that Chino's chorus lines for "Korea" are quite the same. (Thanks to: R)
. Here's what Korea means to Chino:
Chino: "that song is just really abstract. There's a lot of underworld kind of life in there. I'm talking strippers and drugs and all kinds of shit. " (thanks to Matt)
. Between the 3rd and the 5th second you'll hear on 'Korea' what it seems to be some glass knocking on the background. The glass is knocked twice before the guitar starts. It's best heard with the headphones on. (thanks to Evilsraven)
. Chi: (About Maynard appearance) "Well, shit, it's amazing that he wants to work with us." So we were already blown away. Right on, let's do it, what an honor. We've always respected the way Tool has done things. Nobody goes, "That's new metal," it's more like, "Oh, that's Tool." It's indigenous to their own nature. He never intended to sing on anything. He just wanted to see how we wrote and give us ideas about how Tool does things, just because he's interested in bands. So we went down to work with him, and we already had the music for "Passenger" done. We were playing (while) Chino was out getting a beer or something; he wasn't in the room. Maynard was listening and he said, "Why put things in 4/4 when you can go 3/4 or 7/8 or something like that?" And then he just grabbed the mike and started singing, and it was like [sigh]--you know what I mean? And Chino had come back at that point, so they started trading off and doing their thing.We didn't ever really intend to use Maynard on the new album, because every band is like,
"Okay, here's our token celebrity guest appearance, our celebrity crutch for the album." We didn't really want to go that route. But when we actually recorded it, we couldn't get Maynard out of our heads. And I said, "Look, dude, just call Maynard and ask him to come in and do the song." So Maynard came in for two days: wrote, recorded, done."
. Chino: " Having Maynard perform on the record wasn't something that we planned on doing. We didn't plan on having any guest on the record. But being a fan of Tool and A Perfect Circle, once Maynard was involved, it was just a magical thing for us. Honestly, when he first started working with us, he wasn't supposed to sing with us. He was just working on the arrangements, riff structures, time signatures, and things like that. I don't know if you're a big fan of Tool's music, but they're really mathematical. I've been to their rehearsal space, and there's this big chart that just looks like calculus--the way they write songs, it's just crazy. It was good to have someone else who has different ways of writing songs, 'cause everyone has a different way of doing it. He came in and we started working on this one song in particular, and he just grabbed the microphone and started singing along to it, and my jaw just dropped. All of a sudden our band sounded like Tool; it was just crazy. Then, probably two months later, we went in to record the album, and I went in to record the vocals on it, and I just kept hearing his voice, this re-occurring melody with his voice coming over it. So I called him and asked him if he wanted to come down and sing on the record, and he had no problem with it. Once he came in, I gave him sort of what I wanted the song to be about, and he wrote a couple of ideas down, and the next day he came in with all the lyrics written all out with blank spaces where my lyrics were supposed to be. He's very professional like that. He wants everything set perfectly, which is the complete opposite to the way that I write, so it was cool. And then I
went in and did my vocals over it, and it just seemed that our voices blended together pretty good. Yeah, it came out pretty good, so we decided to put it on the record. "
. I remember reading an interview in a magazine around the time when White Pony first came out. Chino was talkin about each song from the album and he mentioned Passenger. In this article he said that the song was already written and that it was meant to just be him singin but Maynard popped by the studio and just started singin the lyrics for a joke and Chino loved it and asked Maynard to be apart of the song. But in another article I read Chino sayin this: "I did this song with Maynard from Tool. Basically, I told him I wanted to create a scenario of being in a car and being taken for a drive when you don't really know what's going on. I wanted him to create a lot of imagery. he wrote a majority of the of the lyrics and left blanks for me to fill in. it seems like you're being held captive, but enjoy what's going on." And when Deftones were at much music back in November Chino said Maynard and him wrote the song with eachother just bouncing ideas off eachother. So there are three different explanations for this song and I don't know which one is the real one. (thanks to Dave Di Tomasso)
. At the end of "Passenger" (5'49") there is a couple of notes played. It seems like a piano but it's actually a guitar... its played by plucking the end string at the head of the guitar. He strongs the strings on the the end of the guitar well that is what he does here except he's not stroking but plucking and their is no distortion... probably some effect he uses to achieve this sound....(much thanks to Ryan and Rowdy)
. Starting at 5:04 to 5:17 on "Passenger" when Maynard says 'Go (9x)', Maynard says 'go' first then directly after each time Maynard says 'go' you can hear a faint go which sounds like Chino... but almost like he doesn't finish the word 'go'. (thanks to iNhaLe)
. During "Passenger" between 4:41 and about 4:46 if you listen really closely in the background you can here an extremely faint sound that sounds like a train blowing its horn and coming down the tracks. (thanks to Matt Evans)
. Between the 21st second and the 30th second, Chino whispers twice (like Ohhhh...Ohhh...).
. Chino: When we wrote "Change (In The House Of Flies)." That was one of those defining songs were we we all wrote together. It started out with Stephen and I playing guitar and Frank doing his keyboard thing over it. Right then, everybody joined in. Nobody told anybody else what to do, it all just came out freely. That's when it all started to come together.
. Here's a correction...Chino was thinking on filming Change video at his house but it wasn't. It was filmed at Hollywood Hills and the director wasn't Nigel Dick as he's saying in this interview from April, 2000. Change video was directed by Liz Friedlander. Here's what Chino told before the White Pony came out...
Chino: "We got a ton of video treatments sent to us and they were all pretty much over-artsy, trying to take us out of our element," he says. "Or they were just straight up silly, basically having us perform and having all these skateboarders and **** like that. Everything was either too complicated or too easy. So I just ended up writing my own treatment with Chi. The label sent it out to Nigel Dick, the director. I wanted to have performance in it, but not be us on a stage with a bunch of kids with tattoos and piercings stage-diving. I don't think we need that. And at the same time we don't need us in a desert dressed in Gucci clothing trying to look weird. I figure if we film it my house it's pretty much us, so it's a true sense of what we do." (thanks to Matt)
. You know the "Change" single with "Crenshaw" and the "Change" video right? Well when it brings up the controls like the volume and playing of the video it says "change (in the house of FILES)" not FLIES, they screwed up! (thanks to VoodooChango@aol.com)
. In the White Pony EPK as the band starts playing 'Change', it cuts to the television with the name of the song on it... but the song is named as 'Change (in A house of flies)' instead of 'Change (in THE house of flies)... (thanks to Craig O'neil)
. Also on my interview with Chino I asked why the official lyrics were 'give you the lungs...' and not 'give you the gun...' like he really says in 'Change' and just like that 'Fuck' on 'Feiticeira' he said it was because of selling strategies.
. During the video "Change (in the house of flies)", Chino accidentally butt the lampshade on his right side. If you get a better look, right on the beginning of the video, when he says for the first time "...into a fly" he butts the lampshade. Then right before Chino makes the first chorus "...I watched a change in you" he puts his arm up and when the music explodes he punches the lampshade...ttccchhhh! Get out of my way!!! Pic of that moment |here|
At the end of "Pink Maggit" from 6:58 to 7:16 it sounds like something is being dragged across the strings (Maybe Stef's teeth...just a thought :p). (thanks to Janine)
I knew that 'The Boy's Republic' had a didgeridoo on it, but I thought it was Frank mixing some stuff. And when I interviewed Chino he said that this didgeridoo was played in fact by Chi Cheng. You can hear that instrument since the beginning of the song until the 35th second, when Chino says 'Down!'
. When asked what inspired a song that includes lyrics like "see I try to look up to the sky but my eyes burn come shove the sun aside," MORENO offered, "I'd be in the studio recording all night. I'd try to sleep during the day and I couldn't because of all the light. I ended up putting tin foil over all the windows."
Another secret I found when I was talking to Chino is that this song was to be called 'Labia' wich is a female genital area. And Abe actually was the one who gave this first name to the song, but Chino didn't like it at all, because of its meaning and changed it to 'Lhabia' - with a H after the L. He also told me that they just played it once, and the strange reason is that it sounded really good...strange han!?!
. Chino's favorite song on ATF is Mascara. At the Deftones Live at SIR Rehearsal Hall, just before they play Mascara, Chino tells the crowd that he called a friend up and his friend had heard the new record (When Around the fur came out) and his friend said "your new album is the shit but there is one song that is just "sorry"" and Chino was like "which one is that" and his friend said "track number 3". Then Chino was like "that's fucked up. That my favorite song on the record" (thanks to Gio / Engine no.9)
. Here's what Chino had to say about the woman he talks about in 'Mascara':
Chino: "It's about my wife."
. While I was with Chi (on my meeting with the band) I asked him what was he saying on the Bizarre Festival'98 about Robert Smith and 'Mascara', and he answered me 'oh yeah, I said that he wanted to play 'Mascara' with us'. So there you go, Robert Smith from the Cure was about to play this song on the Bizarre Festival'98 with the Deftones, but for some reason that didn't happen.
. On "Mascara" right before the first verse and before the drums start, it sounds like a door opens...
I guess it is Stef's distortion but it sure looks like someone's opening the goddamn door! (thanks to WiCkeDkrON)
. The word Rickets is (dictionary definition) a disease of childhood, characterized by softening of the bones as a result of inadequate intake of vitamin D and insufficient exposure to sunlight. (thanks to Lucy D)
. On the final chorus of this song, just as it is beginning, In between the times of 2':20'' and 2':25'' you can almost hear what sounds like a phone ringing. You can also associate this noise to the one you hear when you sign onto the internet (modem or fax noise). (thanks to Nate, Danny and Chisus)
. Here's a cool chat between my friend Matt (DeadAtTheKoolAidParty) and DJ Crook (crookone):
DeadAtTheKoolAidParty - whats shakin, crook? heres a little technical question for ya... at the end of the be quiet and drive (acoustic remix) theres a very distinct, recurring metallic sound... it sounds like something is hitting a piece of metal repeatedly... i always presumed it was you creating that sound (it didnt really sound like an electric guitar with a pedal... plus its an acoustic song, so why should there be an electric guitar?) anyways, im pretty sure the same metallic sound is heard at the end of rx queen... i was presuming that it was frank doing it... so did you teach frank how to create that sound? am i wrong and thats a guitar? or did frank just bite off you?! lol... i hope you can understand what im askin...peace! -matt
crookone- -the 'metallic' sound at the end is actually a really fast drum sample and its chopped up and slowed down to match the tempo of the song. and it came out sounding kinda cool. -oh and for the record no sounds i used in the BQAD remix were used in Kool Aid. -and nah frank didnt bite nothin' hes got his own method of doing things that he does quite well. later,(R()()K()NE
crookone- -thats correct.the story behind the remix is that chino and jonah did the guitar and singing over a 'casio' type beat that i believe jonah made. and all this was recorded on a 4 track cassette. -they mailed me the cassette and i added the 'kick' and 'rimshot', some horn samples and the 'metallicy' sounding beat at the end. -this was all done 'bedrooom' style on our respective 4 track machines. and it came out sounding real good considering i didnt have any effects at the time and everything was mono. later,(R()()K()NE
. Stephen uses 2 different guitars in the video. It's quite obvious. He uses his standard ESP horizon signature model and he also uses a black ESP viper. (thanks to jorge "mos_shark")
. Sometimes when they play it live, Chino sings at the beginning this "I'm taking a ride with my best friend, and I hope she never lets me down again, I'm Taking a ride with my best friend, taking me where I want to be" This is a verse from "Never let me down again" of Depeche Mode. (thanks to Rolando "Rizos")
. You can see a shot of Chino's belt in the "BQAD" video. It goes by very quickly though, like most of the video. It's towards the end when he's about to yell "I don't care where just far". You can check the star that Chino has on his belt, it's something like the one they use in their White Pony flag. |here| (thanks to Abby Diaz)
. Sometimes when they play "Be Quiet and Drive", Chino starts with some verses like "Long goes the night...longer the day...". Chino took these verses of PJ Harvey's "Teclo". This song is track #5 of her album called "To Bring You My Love".
. I don't know if it was a mistake but at the very end of "BQAD" Chino sings "I don't care just where far..." instead of what he was singing till then, that was: "I don't care where just far..." (runtime=4'52"). This is when the music starts to fade out, he just changes the order of the word just/where. (thanks to Noznisky)
. Chino didn't like "BQAD" video at all, here's his comments:
Chino: "I like to make videos because I like to see visuals to our music, but the last video was just what our record label thought what was MTV wanted to see, and I will never ever ever do that again. Our label is really cool, they don't really tell us to do anything, but this last video we made they finally asked a favor of us, and it was a really one sided version of what we are all about. It was all this artsy, gay shit, and I'm not really into that. I'm more into the harsh, brash parts of life that are just reality. I'm about to make a video myself and direct it for a song called "Around the Fur" it'll be just crazy, and MTV I'm sure won't play it because you can't show that kind of stuff on TV."
This ATF video that Chino's talking about was already shot, but just a few saw it. It has some nude scenes and some even say that Stef's d#ck is showed there. It's rumored that it will came out with the Deftones Home video this year.
. On the "BQAD" video seconds after it ends (when Chino is with his arms wide open), if you look closely you can see a bird coming from nowhere flying above Chino's head. See a pic of that |here|
. Right after the drums start (runtime=22") it sounds that you're in a haunted house and someone opened a very rusty door. And right before Chino starts singing there's this very faint sound of like ghosts screaming in the background. It's not very loud, so you gotta catch it. It's right when the song hits 45 and 46 seconds. You wont hear it at first but just listen to those seconds a couple of times and you'll hear it. (thanks to Abigail Diaz)
But all that is Chino breathing in, you can hear several time through out the song mostly before verses. Chino always uses a highly sensitive mic that picks up every little sound he makes.
. I thought that during the 'Be Quiet and Drive' video, Chi Cheng wasn't playing the right notes. I thought he was just banging his bass. But the true reason for that is that on some parts of the song (more on the pre-chorus) he doesn't have to even pluck a string because it's not played on any frets. You can just hit the bass and it will be the right note. It happens more on that big 'Away' Chino says between 2'30'' and 2'37''. (thanks to Autopsy17)
. Till the White Pony's release, Lotion's riff was Stef's favorite...
Stef: "Well, I like'em all, but if I have to pick one, then 'Lotion'. I love playing it. It's just totally heavy and so simple."
. Here's what Chino had to say when he was asked if there was any particular person he was referring to in "Lotion":
Chino: "Yes, there is... there's a certain person that I can't really tell... a person who fucked with me. It's not about a girl though... it can be about anyone." (loudside.com)
. I was watching a video of Deftones playing at the Bizarre Festival in 1998. And when they played "Lotion" the weirdness began. First of all it was raining cats and dogs, Chino was wet from head to feet. Then during the song Chino jumped to the bars near to the crowd, but right on the 1st second some guy pulled Chino's mic and started to scream "ahhhahh", then a bodyguard punched the drunken guy on the head and Chino was able to sing again. But it was not over, cause Chino climbed the bars and started the chorus "I feel sick..." but another crazy guy started to tear up Chino's shirt as if it was a souvenir or something, he was wearing a shirt like this |here|...but Chino didn't like it at all, cause after the souvenirs man tore up his shirt, Chino almost punched him, but he didn't reach his face. But that guy was such a pain in the ass, cause after Chino's advice he started to pull another piece of Chino's shirt. Chino was furious... it was "It's classical anyways..." time and after Chino sing that, he bended over this annoying guy and screamed "WHAT THE FUCK!!" And after that the stupid fan stopped to make shit like that. Before the end of "Lotion", Chino stood still on the pit looking at his wrecked shirt and singing "I feel sick right here, I feel sick right here..." Then on the end of "Lotion" Chino climbed to the stage again and tore up the rest of his shirt and sang "Bored".
. Between 4:06 and 4:23, when Chino is screaming. Right when he screams; it sounds like he's 4:23, when Chino is screaming. Right when he screams; it sounds like he's spitting, but it sorta makes a "fart noise". It sounds like this "fart" when Chino screams the word "What"..."...a surprise" (which I thought was quiteWhat"..."...a surprise" (which I thought was quite humorous). (thanks to Brandon Capps)
. Here's Stef's secret about his guitar on "Dai the Flu":
Stef Carpenter: "I also use a Marshall preamp and an ADA preamp, which is where I get all my tone from. Like the Marshall JMP1 and the ADA MP1. I use Rocktron effects and a couple of Boss pedals, but for the most part, I really don't. "Dai the Flu" is really the only song on the record where I really use effects. All the verses are literally a combination of my preamp, a crazy-ass distortion pedal over top of it, and some delay reverb goin' on. I don't even play guitar on the verses, but my guitar is just ringing. I could totally have my guitar turned off, but the signal is just pouring out of my amp anyway on its own. I have effects, I use Rocktron effects, and a couple Boss pedals, but for the most part, I really don't. "Dai the Flu," I use effects on. It's the only song on the record where I really know I use effects, like all the verses, are literally a combination of my preamp, a crazy-ass distortion pedal over top of it, and some delay reverb goin' on. I don't even play guitar on the verses, but my guitar is just ringing. I could totally have my guitar turned off, but the signal is just pouring out of my amp anyway on its own."
. This great secret I can say that I won when I met the Deftones at Madrid...I asked Chino what was that word 'Dai'...and believe it or not he said that was Chi's real name (Chi Ling Dai Cheng). I didn't know that! He also said that the song was first called 'Before The Flu' and they just changed it to 'Dai The Flu'.
. Did you know when chino recorded head up with Max, that when Chino was singing his parts there was a picture of Dana (Max's stepson) in a frame that Chino had in his hand, and while the song got aggressive Chino smashed the picture into his face.. and all Max can remember when singing this song is Chino's bloody face... I've heard this story before, and I'm pretty sure that I read it somewhere when I became a Deftones fan... (thanks to Autopsy17)
. If you listen to the first Soulfly CD on track number 5 a song entitled "Bumba", in the middle of the song (I am guessing its the bridge) a riff is played and it sounds identical to the 'Headup' riff (starts at 2'25''). The only difference is that there is a different drum beat. (thanks to Autopsy17)
. Max Cavalera named his band - SOULFLY - thanks to 'Headup'. Here's Max own words:
Max Cavalera: "The name came up on the Deftones 'Around the Fur' record (..) we wrote 'Headup' together. On 'Headup' says SOULFLY on it (...) And when we did this TV show, I announced the name (...) when I played with them... I grabbed the mic and said 'Hey I have a new band, it's called Soulfly...' and then we announced it right there."
Check these comments in |this| cool video. (thanks to Hardkore)
. Most of you already know that 'Headup' was a tribute to Max Cavalera's (formerly of Sepultura) dead stepson Dana Wells, who was killed by a hit and run driver a few years ago. Dana was Chino's friend.
'Headup' also contains parts of Dana's diary. I confirmed that with Chino. He said the part is 'Walk into this world with your head up high!'
. On the last 20 seconds of "Headup" it looks as if Chino is singing another song.
He makes the same humming like on "Knife Prty", it has nothing to be with "Headup", it's like he's starting another song.
. This is probably pretty known, but on MX, instead of saying "your magazine and your bones" as the lyric sheet says, chino says "your pussy and your bones". (Thanks to: Jamie Nickerson)
. On 1996 (before Around the Fur's release) PJ Harvey joined John Parish and both decided to release a LP - "Dance Hall at Louse Point" - On this album there's a song called "Rope Bridge Crossing", here's one of the chorus of this song:
And i dream of running
And in the dream I, myself could run
And i feel the ground beneath my feet
And i move like music,
You move me...like music
If you know the lyrics for "Mx", you'll find some similarities on the "You move me like music" part. So I wonder if Chino borrowed the lyrics or if it's just a coincidence.
Thanks to: The R
. After "Around the Fur" release, Chino commented track nr. 10 - "Mx":
Chino: 'I didn't really like "Mx" that much, and I had complete different vocals than I had written in the practice place when we were writing it. When I was recording the vocals in the control room, and I started to say to myself 'this is boring. Throw this song away or stop rolling the tape.' And I just wrote a whole new song over the actual music. New melodies, new whole idea. It was just something that I was feeling at the moment.
And then Abe's wife (Annalynn) was there in the studio and I was thinking there are these parts that I'd really like a girl's voice on, so I asked her if she'd do it. She was like 'I don't wanna do this' and I talked her into it. After it was all done I had a completely different song. Right then it became one of my favorite songs, 'cause it was something I completely changed around myself. It could have been just a normal, kind of boring song, but it ended up being on of my favorite songs, in about an hour, with me just realizing that I can completely do whatever I want that completely changes it. So that was cool.
I would just hit the old bottle of wine... I had a music stand with some of my lyrics on it, some candles burning, and instead of using a hand-held microphone like I usually use, I was using a really nice microphone. I just stood there and let loose. It was something I'd never done. I think that's how singers usually record, but on the first record I recorded everything live with the band in the room, with a little Shure 58 microphone.
I'd never done it that way and it was a lot different. It was fun. It felt a little bit more personal for some reason, 'cause I was in there by myself, with my headphones on, and most of the record was recorded in the dark, and a majority of the record was recorded when I was drunk. So it felt pretty good. I thought it was pretty cool.'
. On "Mx" at approximately 3:57 to 3:58 Abe's wife, Annalynn says, "fucking rockstar". As if she's commenting on Chino's fantasies, or his thoughts. (thanks to Chisus)
. There's another meaning given by Chino in an old interview (loudside.com), here's what he said about the name 'Mx':
Chino: "The song was first called "Max", because when we wrote the song, the riff was similar to something that Max (Cavalera, Soulfly singer) would make. When we went in the studio, Stef took out the "a"... and it's now called "MX"..."
So there you go, I guess this is the most credible meaning for the weird name 'Mx'. (thanks to Autopsy17)
"MX" is also an abbreviation for MotoCross, one of Chino's hobbies. (thanks to Drew Birch)
. When I met the Deftones in their van I asked Chino: "That x in 'Mx' and in 'Rx Queen' stands for a girl's name, right?"
Then Chino looked into my eyes as if I had found his most unwanted secret, and said: "Yeah, man. That's it!"
He was looking at me like 'how did he get it?"
And then I asked again: "Does the x in 'Mx' stands for a girl called Maria?"
And he laughed saying "No man, that's Marisa!"
But I guess he was kidding cause in that day a girl called Marisa was in the backstage also, and I think he remembered that name and said it to me, but who knows maybe he was saying the truth, but now I'm sure 'Mx' is a girl's name, M...
. Abe's wife - Annalynn - is the female voice that trades lines with Chino in "Mx"...
Let me think - Chino
Think about what? - Annalynn
About girls - Chino
And what else - Annalynn
And money, And new clothes - Chino
And what do I get? - Annalynn
Chino invited Annalynn because he really wanted a female voice on "Mx" to contrast with his wishes. He came up with this idea after his first choice PJ Harvey gave up, because of divergences between tour dates and record labels . It was really hard to convincing Annalynn, but after days of persistence she finally gave in and made a great duet with Chino Moreno.
. "Damone" is ATF's hidden track, you can listen it at the 32':35'' of track nr. 10. But before that, around the 19':32'' you will listen something weird. That's also an hidden track and it's called "Bong Hit" a.k.a. "Chino Taking Bong Hits".
. Here are some cool hints about how "Bored" was recorded:
Terry Date (Adrenaline producer): The bass was recorded live. We used a Shure SM57 right in front of the cabinet and put a DI on it - like most people do. I don't get too fancy with microphones, I more try to build a character sound from the instrument. We used floor monitors for everyone except Abe. We started with the bass in between the guitar and drums. Chino's voice has a lot of character, and he is able to change it. A lot of it has to do with the way he cups the mike. He uses his hand over the mike in different positions to get different sounds. I got him to use the mike as an instrument. I always do vocals on an SM58, which is a calculated decision since most of the bands I work with have careers that are 90 percent live work with '58's. Chino destroyed that microphone during recording - threw it around, spit in it. We used that same mike for the whole track and I gave it to him afterwards. I compressed the vocal really hard so that when he is singing, the voice sounds louder and the background noise disappears. These guys are incredibly focused on what they are doing and they love what they are doing, so it was really fun.
. It's evident that Stef uses to different color guitars in the video. First he uses a goldish color ESP, and towards the end he uses a black ESP w/a sticker that says "PERVERT". (thanks to David)
. During the last two chorus if you listen closely you can hear Chi singing in the background. Listen between 3':14" - 3":17" to hear an example. (thanks Rich Trujillo)
. These are Stef's words: "We wrote 'Bored' in half an hour - it came out of nowhere!"
. After 'Adrenaline' came out in 1995, Chino commented the recording of 'Bored'. This is what he said:
"Sometimes I'd be in the studio and get frustrated. I think it was on "Bored," that part where it comes in with 'GET BORED.' That part, I could not do. I couldn't come in at the right time. I was just so out of it. I was trying to fix that pat because it just didn't sound right. I was trippin' and just about crying. I was like, 'I cant' do this Terry, I can't do it!' He was like, "It's cool, you can do it. If you want, go home and chill and we'll do it tomorrow." He didn't let me get too frustrated after that. I wanted to quit a couple of times, just because I was so frickin'... nervous. I felt like I was failing sometimes."
. If you didn't know you'll know now that Chino Moreno is a huge fan of 'Star Wars'. On the "Bored" video at the beginning it shows a shot of Chino standing in his house. Above him is a picture or something of "C3PO" (a character in Star Wars). I also watched an interview with Chino and he was showing the Deftones truck, and then when he and the interviewer reached his bed, Chino showed him his lunchbox...and know what, that lunchbox theme was based on the 'Star Wars' movie. (thanks to Robin Perkins)
. At the 2:55 mark you hear little screams in the background saying something like "fuck"over and over till 3:15. (thanks to firstname.lastname@example.org)
. In the song Minus Blindfold on the "Adrenaline" album, Chino sings the word "fifty-five" as the cd player counter hits the 00.55 (fifty-five) second duration point. (thanks to email@example.com)
. There's live versions of Nosebleed on both the Deftones live tracks CD from Holland, as well as the Back to School mini-album. The strange part is that it's the same recording of Nosebleed, even though on the live CD it says that the track was recorded on October 13th, 1997 at the The Max in Amsterdam, and on the mini-album, it says that the track was recorded live in Chicago, November 8, 2000. It's surely the same recording. Here's a few examples: At the beginning of the song on each CD Chino says, "Get the fuck up!". Also, 59 seconds into the song, instead of saying "I don't need this shit, 'till you cover me", Chino replaces the "'till you cover me" with "anymore". At 2 minutes at 37 seconds, after the "I will come, and I will come" part, Steph plays the first note of his guitar riff sharp. There are many more little details that are exactly the same on both of the recordings, like when Chino stretches his verses out, or misses or adds a word or phrase here and there. It's just interesting that the same recording would be dated differently on the two CD's. (thanks to Bryce)
. Around 1:52 into the song in the background you can hear this weird sound like a moaning but you have to listen really close. You can hear it better around 2:03 through 2:37. You can relate this moaning to the one on Soulfly's "Pain"... (thanks to Erica)
. On the song "One Weak" at the very end of the song (last second) after all the guitars fade out, there is a cow mooing... well that's what it sounds like but actually its just Stef's guitar... (thanks to Ryan)
. This one is for "DefRookies". In "One Weak" at about 2:22, you hear Chino saying "fuck it" really softly in the background. 95% of you already know this but I heard it once on a friends stereo and that part was like a huge silence and we couldn't hear a fly. And I said to him, man he should say "fuck it" right now. So if you never heard this, you better buy another stereo. (thanks to Dj Snickers)
. In and around 4:20 if you listen really close you can hear Chino say "A part of me gets sick". It's easier to check this when you hear it louder. (thanks to MiddVII@aol.com)
Did you knew that the first 10 seconds of 'Root' are completely null? If you turn off your left speaker, you'll see that these first 10 seconds have been recorded on mono, and during this time you can't hear nothing coming out of your right speaker, but on the 10th second (when Abe starts the drums) it all comes to stereo again. Just try to turn off the exact speaker to see this, and you'll see that 'Root' only starts when the drums starts too.
. If you watch the 7 Words video, at around :25 you'll see Chino walking through a doorway, and if you pause at the right moment, you will see the backside picture of the Adrenaline album, without inverted colors. thanks: StonmeDia@aol.com
. Sometimes when the Deftones play "7 words", instead of playing the song's recorded breakdown, they busted into a cover of Weezer's "Say it Aint So." For all of you that don't know (I'm sure most of you do) chino is a HUGE Weezer fan, and once jokingly said that he would leave the deftones if Rrivers asked him. (thanks to: Jamie Nickerson)
. Chino stated to the MTV latino that the place where they shot "7words" video - Cattle Club - was burned sometime ago, and his biggest wish was to make a concert there to help the owner of that place.. (thanks to Mauricio Ahumada)
. At the end of the 7 words demo you can hear other song, it's from a Mexican singer called Vicente Fernandez and the song name is "caminos de michoacan" the genre is known in Mexico as ranchero (kinda mariachi). (thanks to Daniel)
. On the song "7 Words", Chino built a cave out of Styrofoam around the mic while they were tracking the chorus while his screaming SUCK! Making it as distorted as he could without using actual effects, also making it hard to decipher what Chino is really saying. (thanks to Rikky)
. Here's the truth about "7 Words":
Chino: "I wrote it back when I was 16 years old. It's probably one of the angriest songs I've ever written. It was about being oppressed by people around me, the authorities, I felt like the whole world was against me. It was like I was lashing out at those people."
. This isn't a secret at all, it's more like a conclusion that I have right now, after listening lots of bootlegs. The truth is that almost every time the Deftones play "7Words" live, Chino say "...that's been stomped away from every FUCKIN' dream...". Also when they are playing this song live Chino usually says after the second chorus "Speak fast you don't know me..." followed by "Shut up you don't know me" but obviously the regular recorded version he says "Shut up you don't know me " twice. (thanks to George)
You can check that if you have Deftones' bootlegs or when you have the opportunity to see them live.
. You probably just saw somewhere in this website that Chino invited Fred Durst from Limp Bizkit to trade lines with him during the Ermal Festival in Portugal (23/08/00). They were like this:
Chino: You speak fast you don't know me!
Fred: Speak fast you don't fuckin' know me either!
Chino: Shut the fuck up cuz you don't know me!
Fred: And shut the fuck up cuz you don't know me!
Chino: And squeal like a pig when you...
. That 'Suck!' on '7Words' was meant to be 'Fuck' first. Chino used to sang 'Fuck' on the beginning and he did that on the record too, but they fixed that to 'Suck'. He also confirmed me that he used to sang 'Fuck' sometimes in live performances.
Have you ever received a phone call (mobile) while you were listen to music, near to a speaker? For example in the car?
If yes, you sure know that it makes a weird sound...some kind of a sound interference or something. That's just what happens on "Birthmark" (Adrenaline's track no.8). It starts after Chino says "In spite I will lie..." and before he starts screaming "In spite I'll still lie!".
It's between 3:10 and 3:20 in "Birthmark's" running time. Every time I listen to it seems like my mobile phone is ringing...
Note: That sound is actually produced by gently rubbing the flat part of your pick on the upper 3 or 4 strings in a fast circular motion. Start at the pickups and slowly move down the strings towards the nut - this causes the pitch of the "interference" sound to drop, and also leads naturally into the next chord in the song. Depending on your pickup buzz and level of distortion, you might have to lightly mute the strings with your left hand around the 3rd or 4th fret as you do the circular pick scrape. (thanks to Andrea)
. Engine Number Nine's title may have been taken from a Black Sheep song called "The Choice is Yours". Halfway trought the song one of the rappers says "engine engine number nine on the New York transit line/ if my train goes off the track/ pick it up, pick it up, pick it up...". Chino sang this verse a couple of times as an intro of E#9, with Stephen playing "Fist" on the background. (thanks to: Ralph)
. Sometimes, when they play this song live, Chino in the end goes like "1,2,3..", and then they play "Wicked" chorus. ("Wicked" is a Korn's/Chino's song).
-Also thanks to Victor_-_ESP-FreaK.
. On "Fireal" right before Stef's first riff (during the strange scratching) (runtime= 0' 13'') you can hear Chino breathing in. I can listen this extremely well with my car stereo. At home I must have it really loud to listen that breathing.
. During my interview with Chino I guess I was really bad when I asked him 'Who was that maddog you were so curbed to know' and he just told me 'Oh it was this girl from a long time ago...I don't wanna talk about it'. So there you go the 'maddog' is a girl.
. If you turn up the volume very high at the part where Chino quietly sings 'as long as we sleep right now'..after he sings that line twice, and right before it goes to chorus you can hear Chino mumble a little bit, saying what sounds 'good night..' and then the chorus starts.. It sounds like he says 'good night' after the last 'as long as we sleep right now'.. -- Thanks to eric.e (def_linus) --
. Crenshaw was actually an out-take of the song Be Quiet and Drive. When they recorded it, Abe wanted to test out different sounds, and so he set up his drumset out on a balcony on the second floor. They liked the new sound, and kept it. It became Crenshaw, or on the Back to School EP (Japanese Version), it was called I'll Throw Rocks at You - Chi Cheng. (Thanks to Ryan Flach)
. The Deftones were once asked to have Crenshaw put on a soundtrack, but they refused, mainly because the movie was Bride of Chucky. (Thanks to Ryan Flach)
. When Abe and Steph were on Rockline (16/07/01) one of the questions was what is the meaning behind the title "Crenshaw".... Abe said first it was called "Crenshaw's Punch" as we all know, but how it came to be was that long ago when they were just starting out... they were crusing down Crenshaw Blvd. in LA and stopped off at a crappy Liquor store and bought some cheap wine and named it Crenshaw's Punch.... "punch" as in fruit punch... basically they named the wine, but it stuck as a song title... (thanks to Matt)
Hear this song very carefully, because when it reaches the 50-54 seconds you'll hear Abe hitting "accidentally", I suppose, his drumsticks... (props to Carlos)
Sometimes when Deftones perform "Teething" live, Chino starts rapping during the middle with "Life's a bitch and then ya die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." That's actually from a song called "Life's A Bitch" by NY rapper Nas. It comes from Nas' 1994 album called "Illmatic" and it's track 3. (props to Mita T.)
It's not a secret anymore that Chino Moreno laid down guest vocals on Sevendust's song "Bender", from their album "Home". But the weird thing in all this is that the liner notes to the album credits the vocals of "Bender" not to Chino Moreno but to someone mysteriously named "Pony 1". But Chino came after saying that it was an miscommunication error, because he truly wanted to use a pseudonym on "Home" credits, but it wasn't "Pony 1". What he chose to go with was "Pony Wong" because his middle name is Wong, but unfortunately that miscommunication led to "Wong" becoming "1."
Did you know that "Please Let Me..." was about to be on the Deftones first record "Adrenaline"?
Well that's true...
Chino: "When we did our first record, we tried to record a version of "Please Let Me Get What I Want". So we started to record it, and when we were about to finish it, Terry Date said: "Do you know something?? Lets stop right now...If you wanna do this song, I'll stop right here. I don't want that, and I wont put my name on the record!" - I was like perplexed. Then Terry said: "The Smiths are too mellow for this.". So we taped that song by our selves."